I've gotten through, and the week went well. Managed to finish on a high note- F bought 2 more weeks of my time and additional software. They dont know what they want in terms of final requirements but are happy to use my experience as a guide. It was a rather stressful week, all told, because there are a large number of very smart people there that, like me, enjoy being the alpha cat. I think women might play it differently. Y argues from a platform of experience, where I tend to argue from a point of ignorance- playing at hunting for a solution when I have an answer in mind. But, all is well now and I am heading back with a final database design and a promise to sign.